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	<title>Comments on: A note for the future: This is how referendum looks like</title>
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		<title>By: Adam Andrzejewski</title>
		<link>http://learnthinkdo.blogivists.com/2008/11/26/a-note-for-the-future-this-is-how-referendum-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Andrzejewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On our homepage, right next to the Illinois School District Honor Roll, we have the Public Service Watch List.  Ridgeland is on that bad government list.  Some interesting articles are posted their as well.  Over the summer, the superintendent increased his own pay by 10% after cancelling outdoor recess at one of the grade schools for the second half of the year!  Please contact me at adam@forthegoodofillinois.org. I can help you be successful asking your district to post their registry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On our homepage, right next to the Illinois School District Honor Roll, we have the Public Service Watch List.  Ridgeland is on that bad government list.  Some interesting articles are posted their as well.  Over the summer, the superintendent increased his own pay by 10% after cancelling outdoor recess at one of the grade schools for the second half of the year!  Please contact me at <a href="mailto:adam@forthegoodofillinois.org">adam@forthegoodofillinois.org</a>. I can help you be successful asking your district to post their registry!</p>
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		<title>By: learnthinkdo</title>
		<link>http://learnthinkdo.blogivists.com/2008/11/26/a-note-for-the-future-this-is-how-referendum-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>learnthinkdo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 07:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I keep asking mine. It takes a few times over and over and over. We have started assembling a Parent Advisory Committee. Turns out it is a perfectly normal, legally sanctioned entity. Hmm, why is it hardly mentioned, unlike the PTA/PTO?

Where on http://www.forthegoodofillinois.org are the above-mentioned check registers that you got through FOIA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I keep asking mine. It takes a few times over and over and over. We have started assembling a Parent Advisory Committee. Turns out it is a perfectly normal, legally sanctioned entity. Hmm, why is it hardly mentioned, unlike the PTA/PTO?</p>
<p>Where on <a href="http://www.forthegoodofillinois.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.forthegoodofillinois.org</a> are the above-mentioned check registers that you got through FOIA?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Andrzejewski</title>
		<link>http://learnthinkdo.blogivists.com/2008/11/26/a-note-for-the-future-this-is-how-referendum-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Andrzejewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 02:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I founded www.forthegoodofillinois.org .
Ridgeland d122 is on our Public Service Watchlist (opposite of the 37 districts on our honor roll), because their administration and school board will not post their check register on their website!  What are they hiding?  So, we FOIA it and post it on our watch list.  The Illinois public is generous with public education, Oak Lawn is right not to give more to this district until they show you where the existing funds are being spent!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I founded <a href="http://www.forthegoodofillinois.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.forthegoodofillinois.org</a> .<br />
Ridgeland d122 is on our Public Service Watchlist (opposite of the 37 districts on our honor roll), because their administration and school board will not post their check register on their website!  What are they hiding?  So, we FOIA it and post it on our watch list.  The Illinois public is generous with public education, Oak Lawn is right not to give more to this district until they show you where the existing funds are being spent!</p>
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		<title>By: learnthinkdo</title>
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		<dc:creator>learnthinkdo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lisa,

I enjoyed your discussion with Ed and Bob on your blog. All three of you are very knowledgeable and level-minded. 

Please consider the possibility that we have been conditioned by the school system into a powerless way of thinking about the school priorities.

Let&#039;s stop assuming that the district can simply discard a program to cut the 
budget. Let&#039;s create a vision that art and music classes have the 
same priority as sports and regular classes. Let&#039;s also create a vision that the district cannot simply fire teachers to save money.

The district might cut across the board.
Teacher salary schedules have a rigid &quot;step-down&quot; system that rewards seniority and a masters degree.
Teacher health plans are always exceptionally generous to the teachers, with a token premium and a token deductible.
Our plan has 92% utilization by the teachers. 92% of insurance company&#039;s income goes right back to the teachers.
The company is stuck with 8% gross margin. No wonder it bumps the premium by 12% for next year.
Add up the salaries, health payouts, pension payouts of a 15-year high school teacher.
15 years of experience (seniority) is average for teachers. The district could easily pay out $120-$130K a year.

Imagine you&#039;re a VP of iPod product line in Apple. 
Recession is here and Apple&#039;s income is down.
Steve Jobs throws out an idea to cancel iPod and focus only on iPhone and Mac. But you know that iPod is just as important to Apple as the iPhone and the Mac.
Are you going to appeal to his sympathy for your about-to-go-hungry family or are you going to stand for what you know is right?
If you stand up for yourself you will prove to Steve why iPod belongs in company&#039;s portfolio. 

It might be uncomfortable, but you must get the district to bring those expenses down from $120K to $110K a year.
The teachers certainly are wonderful and they wouldn&#039;t like it , but it&#039;s also tough to manage a lot of other jobs for far less money.

The union wants you to think only about this year&#039;s art and music.
Don&#039;t let them set these parameters for you.
You gotta stand up, not only as one mother of one student, as also as an owner of the district.

You&#039;re not the only one.
Once you stand up, others will too.
Please stand up! 

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lisa,</p>
<p>I enjoyed your discussion with Ed and Bob on your blog. All three of you are very knowledgeable and level-minded. </p>
<p>Please consider the possibility that we have been conditioned by the school system into a powerless way of thinking about the school priorities.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s stop assuming that the district can simply discard a program to cut the<br />
budget. Let&#8217;s create a vision that art and music classes have the<br />
same priority as sports and regular classes. Let&#8217;s also create a vision that the district cannot simply fire teachers to save money.</p>
<p>The district might cut across the board.<br />
Teacher salary schedules have a rigid &#8220;step-down&#8221; system that rewards seniority and a masters degree.<br />
Teacher health plans are always exceptionally generous to the teachers, with a token premium and a token deductible.<br />
Our plan has 92% utilization by the teachers. 92% of insurance company&#8217;s income goes right back to the teachers.<br />
The company is stuck with 8% gross margin. No wonder it bumps the premium by 12% for next year.<br />
Add up the salaries, health payouts, pension payouts of a 15-year high school teacher.<br />
15 years of experience (seniority) is average for teachers. The district could easily pay out $120-$130K a year.</p>
<p>Imagine you&#8217;re a VP of iPod product line in Apple.<br />
Recession is here and Apple&#8217;s income is down.<br />
Steve Jobs throws out an idea to cancel iPod and focus only on iPhone and Mac. But you know that iPod is just as important to Apple as the iPhone and the Mac.<br />
Are you going to appeal to his sympathy for your about-to-go-hungry family or are you going to stand for what you know is right?<br />
If you stand up for yourself you will prove to Steve why iPod belongs in company&#8217;s portfolio. </p>
<p>It might be uncomfortable, but you must get the district to bring those expenses down from $120K to $110K a year.<br />
The teachers certainly are wonderful and they wouldn&#8217;t like it , but it&#8217;s also tough to manage a lot of other jobs for far less money.</p>
<p>The union wants you to think only about this year&#8217;s art and music.<br />
Don&#8217;t let them set these parameters for you.<br />
You gotta stand up, not only as one mother of one student, as also as an owner of the district.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not the only one.<br />
Once you stand up, others will too.<br />
Please stand up! </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://learnthinkdo.blogivists.com/2008/11/26/a-note-for-the-future-this-is-how-referendum-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link.  However, who is getting hurt out of this?  The kids.  If I send my daughter to the public school next year, she will not have music or art which will definitely put her behind other children who live  here in Oak Lawn.

My only recourse here is to send her to private school.  I know you are going to say run for the board, but that won&#039;t help my daughter for school next year.

&lt;em&gt;Lisa&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://mythoughtsideasandramblings.com/2008/11/25/lands-end-exclusive-deal/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lands End Exclusive Deal!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link.  However, who is getting hurt out of this?  The kids.  If I send my daughter to the public school next year, she will not have music or art which will definitely put her behind other children who live  here in Oak Lawn.</p>
<p>My only recourse here is to send her to private school.  I know you are going to say run for the board, but that won&#8217;t help my daughter for school next year.</p>
<p><em>Lisa&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://mythoughtsideasandramblings.com/2008/11/25/lands-end-exclusive-deal/' rel="nofollow">Lands End Exclusive Deal!</a></em></p>
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